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You and your job

“The role of a manager should be to ensure that those that work for him/her eventually leave and go onto bigger and better things” Mark Plant

If you are unhappy in your job – leave and if you aren’t excited about work every morning – stop whatever you’re doing and do something else.

This is what we need to live by.

If you aren’t being challenged in your job – leave.

If you are cruising in your current work – leave.

If you aren’t sweating it at present and feeling under pressure – leave.

If you think you understand everything that you are doing where you are currently working – leave.

If you aren’t failing enough – leave and go find somewhere where you fail before you succeed. When you find yourself succeeding too often – leave again.

If you think you are successful – leave and find something or somewhere where you aren’t. When you become successful again – leave again.

If everyone likes you and wants to work with you – leave and go work somewhere where they don’t (and then get them to want to).

If your work is winning awards and it feels like you win most pitches – leave and go somewhere where no one has won anything and there is a low rate of success at pitches. Help them turn it around.

If you think you know a product inside out – leave and go find a product that you don’t.

If you think you understand the value of all your influences and feel that you have challenged them from all the directions you can find – leave and go find somewhere where there are different (or unheard of) influences that maybe you don’t even understand why they are influences.

If your manager is not influencing you to ultimately leave and go onto bigger and better things – leave.

If someone is standing in the way of your progress (either internally or externally) – leave.

If someone is trying to make you stay in your job – leave.

If your manager is trying to make you stay, they aren’t a good manager – leave.

If the days go too smoothly and there is too much time for idle chatter (or you are surrounded by people with too much time for idle chatter) – leave.

If you don’t work with people who put the same amount of thought and effort into teamwork and collaboration as you do – leave and find people who do.

If there is a culture of persuading people to stay in their jobs by offering them more money – leave.

If where you work there is a business culture of holding on to people to prevent them working for competitors – leave.

If where you work there is a business culture of trying to make competitors fail – leave.

If there isn’t a culture (or understanding) of creating working relationships between the right people and that not everyone works well together – leave.

And if in this work culture there is not the understanding that a certain degree of tension between these great working relationships produces greater work – leave.


71 Comments

Possibly a bit strong in places but I like the mindset :)

Posted by Chris Sainsbury on 4 October 2010 @ 11am

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Easy to say

Posted by ron on 4 October 2010 @ 12pm

Are there any circumstances under which one should stay?

Posted by Mary on 4 October 2010 @ 12pm

Like. Can’t help but suspect we’ll all end up running about like Richard E Grant in How to Get Ahead in Advertising.

Posted by Claire on 4 October 2010 @ 1pm

Well, my underlings and lackies tend to quit and move on pretty quickly- I must be doing something right.

Posted by Matteo on 4 October 2010 @ 1pm

Cute article and presented authoritatively and confidently but basically absurd advice taken as a whole.

Posted by Scott on 4 October 2010 @ 1pm

I’ll take your advice today if you cover my rent. How about it?

Oh, I didn’t think so.

Posted by Scott Rubin on 4 October 2010 @ 1pm

Please also write some reason/circumstances where we don’t have to leave our jobs.

Posted by Sachin on 4 October 2010 @ 1pm

This is great advice if you are independently wealthy and have a job merely as a mental exercise. Otherwise, it’s kind of terrible.

Posted by Andrew on 4 October 2010 @ 1pm

If you read a blog post that repeats the same 5 ideas in 50 paragraphs – leave.

(Sorry if that’s harsh – I couldn’t resist! I like the basic premise, but a lot of those points (in particular, about people trying to get you to stay in a job) were the same idea repackaged repeatedly)

Posted by tronak on 4 October 2010 @ 1pm

Utterly, utterly wrong.
This “follow your dream” malarky isn’t how you succeed. Mike Rowe pretty much nailed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVdiHu1VCc

Posted by Mark Dennehy on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

I really agree with this guy:

“This is great advice if you are independently wealthy and have a job merely as a mental exercise. Otherwise, it’s kind of terrible.”

The only solution to the advice in this blog post is to basically leave, start a company and do things your own way, which isn’t a bad idea, but it technically stops being “a job”.

Posted by Bpb on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

Utter nonsense!

I presume this was cut and pasted from the OCD employee’s handbook.

Deluded clap trap.

Posted by Gary Clarke on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

And what if you enjoy your job but the criteria above is met? Leave?

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Posted by Tu y tu trabajo on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

Clearly has no kids…

Posted by James on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

This is the manual of the corporate drone in disguise, basically because you’re telling people to leave one job for another. If your “solution” is always “leave and go somewhere else”, then why not start your own business? Then you will have to deal with people that just want to suck your company dry and then leave (that’s what you’re suggesting, right?).

This is not really I good post. I think you should leave.

Posted by Fabio on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

I can live by this philosophy. I think I have already left many jobs in my life due to most of those statements. Good read.

Posted by netmask on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

“If your work is winning awards and it feels like you win most pitches – leave and go somewhere where no one has won anything and there is a low rate of success at pitches. Help them turn it around. ”

Leave my successful job with a successful company and go to work for a failing company. Great advice, thanks. This surely has to be a spoof.

Posted by Moschops on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

You have some good points to make. However, a LOT of people pay their bills and feed their families based on their regular “boring” jobs. Adventures may cost them more than they can ever take. So if leaving was a solution to everything, then the hottest career would be of those of Job consultants in the market now. So, all said an done, a LOT of your points are good but of no practical use at all.

Posted by Vijay on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

where is the quote from at the top of the post?

Posted by richard on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

This one made me grin :-) What I even enjoy more than the post itself are those comments … I guess most of these guys don’t get the whole “message” because the “if”-clause results in a “false” for them and so the advice doesn’t look applicable to them…

For those who get the message: Move forward and fail your way to the next success!

Posted by sreuter on 4 October 2010 @ 2pm

Remind me not to hire this guy.

Posted by Scott on 4 October 2010 @ 3pm

The author thinks he/she is clever, but this post is a pile of bullshit. There’s no other way to put it. And I’m disappointed to see YCombinator tweet a link to this garbage.

Posted by Aaron on 4 October 2010 @ 3pm

Great advice

obviously we can’t just leave a job, but I understand the concept. For me if I’m too comfortable and have no challenges / no room for growth I leave. If I see bad managers I make them leave.

Good leadership places a major role in changing some of the patterns/bullet points above.

This article should include a poll

Posted by Chris on 4 October 2010 @ 3pm

This is advice for people who are rich enough to never *have* to work again. If you have that, you can follow all the guidelines above. Otherwise, you can only follow some, some of the time.

Posted by Bobob on 4 October 2010 @ 3pm

Anything you do is just killing time from now until you die. Something to keep you busy. If you’re doing something that you don’t like or enjoy, stop doing it, and find something that will pass the time easier. Why stress about a job? Why get ulcers worrying about someone else’s money?

Posted by Mandamus on 4 October 2010 @ 3pm

“There’s a time to earn, and there’s a time to learn.”

Posted by Ed on 4 October 2010 @ 3pm

I appreciate the sentiment, but I have a feeling that if I consistently followed these suggestions that I’d constantly be leaving.

Posted by philtor on 4 October 2010 @ 3pm

This post is kinda radical and rather contradictory.

Posted by Leandro N. Camargo on 4 October 2010 @ 4pm

Great advice for young people trying to work their way up
I think some of your readers are taking this post a bit too literally. The idea is that once your job begins to meet some of these criteria, you should start looking for an opportunity where you can have a greater impact and where your job stops developing you as a person and as an employee. The author is not suggesting that everyone go in and quit tomorrow and live off unemployment until they fine their “perfect”job. Unfortunately, as we progress more into an intellectual economy, there will be no long term success for those who accept mediocrity or stagnation. Continual improvement and innovation will be the buzz words of our generation.

Posted by Jamie C. on 4 October 2010 @ 4pm

My take-away: if you have opportunities for change, don’t be too scared or comfortable to go for it.
Some if’s are more important for me than others.
You can improve the culture in your current job. I’ve tried and things improved.
And I’m now encouraged to make the change I’m making without worrying too much. That was worth reading the post :)

Posted by johannakoll on 4 October 2010 @ 4pm

Hi, it is really a nice blog post. I really like it, so i translated it into Chinese, here is the address:
http://www.ikbear.com/archives/how-to-leaev/

Posted by ikbear on 4 October 2010 @ 4pm

Matthew… having a bad day at the office?

Posted by Tess on 4 October 2010 @ 4pm

If you have read this blogpost, leave.

Posted by deepak on 4 October 2010 @ 4pm

“I don’t know, I’m just trying to stimulate some conversation…”

Posted by David on 4 October 2010 @ 4pm

I didn’t like this post so I’m leaving.

Posted by Alexander Haig on 4 October 2010 @ 4pm

I think following each of these to the letter would cause a person to leave their job every few weeks! Sometimes we have off days but I guess fundamentally, if we are not learning and growing at our jobs, it is time to move on.

Posted by Anita on 4 October 2010 @ 5pm

This is good in principle and maybe even faith but it’s hard to do in a recession unless you have that financial backing needed if/when things go wrong…but it motivated me a little. Just not enough to quit my only form of employment.

Posted by Miss Lucy on 4 October 2010 @ 5pm

I think the summary and theme is about getting out of your comfort zone and getting challenged, the more the better, just to keep your fangs and claws sharpened at all times.

Posted by dohn on 4 October 2010 @ 5pm

Haha thats great! Whatever you do ….. leave:)

Posted by Andre on 4 October 2010 @ 5pm

LOL! This post is absolutely terrible advice if you want to earn a stable living.

But I get the point, even if the remarks are extreme and not at all practical.

Posted by Judah Gabriel Himang on 4 October 2010 @ 5pm

I love how everyone against this post makes the assumption that you can’t leave to another job.

Posted by Jason Lotito on 4 October 2010 @ 6pm

In short: Leave

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Posted by links for 2010-10-04 « Boskabout on 4 October 2010 @ 7pm

“No one ever said on their deathbed, ‘I wish I’d spent more time at the office.’”

Posted by Trent on 4 October 2010 @ 7pm

I enjoyed it. It can be hard to move from success to failure but I think the challenge of succeeding is a good thing.

Posted by James on 4 October 2010 @ 7pm

So this obviously goes on a bit too long with too many reasons why you should leave, but the point should be blatantly clear. You aren’t doing yourself any favors if you’re coasting along in your job, if it all comes easily to you, if no one is challenging you to try harder…of course, if you really do enjoy the people you work with you might make an exception to stay there, but know that it may not be helping *you* down the road. That’s the point, without challenges you aren’t progressing.

Posted by Frankerson on 4 October 2010 @ 7pm

Well, I think that’s not the right way to think.

Everytime you read “leave”, change it for:
“Do some social hacking and improve it! If it doesn’t work, them leave.”

That’s a better approach IMHO.

Posted by Mauricio Zaffari on 4 October 2010 @ 8pm

While my current job ticks some of the boxes above, and I have a job interview in 5 minutes I don’t really feelmotivated to leave. A job where you are respected, paid well and given incentives to stay allows you to focus on things outside of work like health, happiness and relationships.

More to life than work. Took me a long time to accept this fact.

Posted by Edmond on 4 October 2010 @ 10pm

I’ve been thinking about this post since yesterday, and I eventually came to the same conclusion as Mauricio & Johanna: if you replace “leave” with “change it,” I’d definitely agree with both the passion and the sentiment of this post.

Posted by Jeff Van Campen on 5 October 2010 @ 12pm

Is the author a recruiter, who is trying to encourage people to move around for chances to grab a few deals?

What is the appropriate attitude when facing challenges and difficulties? I am guessing your answer is “Leave”.

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Posted by » links for 2010-10-05 (Dhananjay Nene) on 5 October 2010 @ 9pm

I left my job eight months ago. Biggest mistake of my life. This explains it all pal. http://bit.ly/dd7xfW

Posted by Sonny Daiz on 5 October 2010 @ 9pm

Ha ha… Brilliant post I love it.

Even better are some of the replies. What is it with you people? If he said jump would you do it? This is for thinking people; think, question, resolve.

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Posted by Twitter Weekly Updates for 2010-10-07 | Ahmed El Gamil on 7 October 2010 @ 2pm

Cracking rant Matthew and an important message well made. It’s disconcerting how many people who were showing a whiff of intelligence actually finding this post just don’t get the point! I wonder if the people who will read this and know what your talking about aren’t already living it and the rest will keep moaning about the job they’ve been in for 10 years. It’s evident by many of your respondants that the glass ceiling and lack of responsibility for ones purpose in life is prevelant and sets in at a young age :(

Posted by Justin on 8 October 2010 @ 7am

Is it time for wine?

Posted by Justin on 8 October 2010 @ 7am

I left my software job for one of the reasons mentioned.. now pursuing MS .. I don’t know how its going to help

Posted by none on 10 October 2010 @ 2am

If your boss is a dumb ass who thinks he’s a super star: leave

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